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Feb 05, 2014 Auria. Get beatmaker 2. It's by far the cheapest, performs the best on current iOS devices and is (in most respects) a full-fledged DAW that operates similarly to a PC/Mac DAW. Cubasis and Auria are also excellent, but I personally found cubasis' interface was not as good as BM2's considering it costs more than twice as much. Cubasis There's another high-quality iPad DAW available from Steinberg, Cubasis. Auria was the first, and as I'm trying to do my first project - a re-mix - on it, I'm finding it a generally pleasant experience.
If you are a Cubase fan or iPad user (or both!) then the new Steinberg Cubasis app really is a no brainer. We have had a few iOS apps that promise to behave like full blown DAWs but have perhaps fallen short in a few areas so far.
Cubasis seems to tick all the boxes, on paper at least, and with Steinberg’s heritage could this be the only serious audio app you’ll need on the road? Let’s get under the hood and see how it performs.
The Spec Sheet
So before I get into what I actually think of Cubasis and how well it works, I thought I’d cover a few key aspects of the App’s specs. This isn’t usually that important with an iOS app as it’s pretty rare that you are able to produce entire projects on them. Well, things are changing and the specs of this app are pretty impressive!
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Cubasis has over 300 MIDI and Audio loops bundled with it, 70 Virtual instrument sounds (based on HALion Sonic) and 10 Studio grade effect processors. You also get the ability to export to Cubase 6 or 7, SoundCloud, AudioPaste, Wi-Fi servers and iTunes. You can also perform traditional, straight up, audio and MIDI exports.
Some of the Cubasis key features list.
Although all of this is really impressive, the real key feature here is the ability to add unlimited audio and midi tracks to your Cubasis projects. That’s right you heard me, unlimited tracks! There are of course a few real world limitations on this and they are actually based on the hardware you are using.
If you are on the iPad 2 or iPad mini, you will be limited to 48 voices of polyphony (either audio or virtual instruments). If you have the iPad Retina or v4, you will be upgraded to 64 voices. Either way, this is enough to put together a decent sized project and blows Garageband’s 8 tracks well and truly out of the water.
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First Impressions
After having a small lie down, due to learning that I had 48-64 voices available to me, I was ready to start testing Cubasis out for real.
It’s worth mentioning here that Cubasis is $49.99/£34.99 but for what’s on offer, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. You have to put this into perspective and realize it’s probably about half the amount you would pay for a basic plug-in in a full DAW.
The default view in Cubasis.
On loading up a demo project in Cubasis, I was pleasantly surprised by how similar the interface was to that of my latest version of Cubase. The continuity they have managed to achieve here really is bang on.
Loading up projects is pretty straightforward.
Without even thinking about it, I was navigating my way around the different tracks and devices in the project, editing audio and accessing the mixer. If you are proficient in any DAW the learning curve is about zero here and even the beginner should find this straightforward to operate. If you get stuck there is an awesome built-in help facility.
The included Help system.
Touching Bass
The fact Steinberg have managed to adapt a completely mouse controlled environment for a touch screen interface is a feat in its own right to be fair. Everything works well and even the most fiddly job like editing MIDI notes works smoothly.
Zooming using a two finger pinch gesture is extremely smooth.
Other functions such as zooming in and out in the arrange window actually work a little better! There are also some very nice touches for customizing your view of the interface. The tools area and inspector for example can be quickly folded away to free up valuable screen real estate for the arrangement or editing.
The MIDI note editor in the lower section of the screen.
On the subject of editing, most extra windows needed when editing either audio, midi or indeed the mix, will be brought up at the bottom of the interface. Each one of these windows is tailor made for its purpose and everything is laid out very well.
The Audio Editor.
Other windows you can expect to see as pop-ups are the fully featured mixer (with pan, solo, mute, record arm, edit and monitor buttons), a scalable keyboard and drum pads. As I dug deeper here, I was honestly impressed with every new feature I explored. This really is very well put together.
The Cubasis Mixer.
In The Mix
This is actually my first phase of testing of the Cubasis app, so I only really had enough time to get into the demo audio and projects. As far as I could tell, everything worked perfectly and with little to no noticeable lag or latency.
I was able to edit audio, add effects and edit MIDI sequences without any glitches. Things ran so smoothly it’s almost in danger of running better than a fully blown computer based DAW. Some of the demo projects have a good number of tracks and effects running simultaneously too.
Cubasis has ten studio quality effects.
The effects here are excellent and pretty much identical to those you would expect to find in Cubase. There are ten in total with all of your EQ, dynamics, spatial and modulation needs covered.
The Compressor effect.
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.. And the Reverb.
You can have three insert effects per track and up to three send return effects as well. You can also process you master output, to create a basic mastering chain. This is far beyond anything we have seen on the iPad so far.
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The Cubasis keyboard.
I really can't stress how smoothly this thing runs. After hours of editing, playback and exporting, I didn’t experience one hiccup. I really think you could run this as a pro mixing tool on the road. Obviously, we are missing a lot of features here but there are enough to get by until you are back in studio.
Final Thoughts And Conclusion
So all in all Cubasis is a hands down victory. Everything supplied here works and works perfectly. If you are a Cubase user and own an iPad, this is simply a no brainer, you have to have it. For just under £35 you can’t really go wrong.
Cubasis running on the iPad 2.
I have only two criticisms of the Cubasis system, one minor and one pretty major. The first (minor) thing I’d like to see changed is a zoom function on the mixer. The channels are quite wide and take up a decent amount of screen. The ability to ‘crush’ them when less info is needed would be fantastic.
My second criticism here would be the lack of any automation. At first I was certain I just hadn’t come across the controls and that I would unveil it at any point, but the further I delved I realized that it just wasn’t going to materialize. I got very upset and then finally accepted reality.
I’m not sure if it was omitted due to the lack of support on the hardware / OS or if it’s simply a CPU resources issue. I would certainly sacrifice some polyphony for the ability to record basic automation. It’s a real shame and could actually see it being a bit of a handicap in larger sessions. Maybe it’s something that will get introduced at a later date, I certainly hope so!
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Dear peeps, As a longtime Logic (OS X) user I'm wondering what your favorite iOS DAW is specifically for slicing and arranging Audio into song format.
Typically I create bounced audio in tons of apps as well as Mac programs then use Logic to pull it all together and end up doing a good amount of micro-editing by the time a track is wrapped.
So more than generating sound, MIDI-syncing or effect processing It's that last bit in particular that I'm interested in: favorite iOS DAWS for editing and arranging Audio files.
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Thanks gents - In my brief experience with Auria and Cubasis it was the latter that seemed more intuitive for cutting and moving audio but that was several updates ago -- I'll dive into the current status of both again.
Any others have a stance on the topic?
@KING777 said:
Hopefully Auria Pro!Arrival imminent!!!
Fer sure!
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Auria.
Edit: should perhaps add why..Auria have a far, far more detailed waveform rendering, and hence allows for far more detailed audio editing (and arranging)
@ChrisG Thank you - exactly the kind of info I'm after.
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I'm a Logic user and recently bought Auria. I don't have experience with Cubasis but Auria is great for editing and arranging wave files - definitely one of it's strengths, along with automation. Weaknesses - glitches, dated UI and anyone who comes up with the idea of an 'input matrix' deserves to be mercilessly thrashed with a large fillet of frozen haddock.
@monzo said:
I'm a Logic user and recently bought Auria. I don't have experience with Cubasis but Auria is great for editing wave files - definitely one of it's strengths. Weaknesses - glitches, and anyone who comes up with the idea of an 'input matrix' deserves to be mercilessly thrashed with a large fillet of frozen haddock.You said it, that matrix is the pit of pits.
@proppa --
For the highest quality effects (compressors, etc) -- hands down its Auria (via the IAPs). Otherwise, if I'm working with MIDI, it's Cubasis. I often use GarageBand instruments but export tracks for further processing in Auria and/or specialized effects apps (Holderness Media apps, the Aufx series, etc).I do find Cubasis a bit easier to work in, but when Auria gets the Pro version with MIDI, it may change everything in my workflow.
Auria. My most recent song had close to 50 slices on the lead vocal track alone culled from a dozen or more takes over the course of 4 different recording sessions. Smooth and seamless and really, even most Cubasis afficionados will readily admit Auria sounds better. And don't we all want everything to sound better?
Last time I used Cubasis you couldn't glue different audio segments together.
Auria isn't perfect by any means, but I think on iOS it's definitely the best option for this kind of task.
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I'm new to the game but I think Auria is better at this. Only thing is that Cubasis has the added advantage of MIDI and I like the user interface. But Auria Pro is coming out soon.
Y'all don't like the input matrix? Is it a matrix that is the problem or that matrix? I find it easy to understand on the rare occasion I need it, but I am also a reaper user and that uses a matrix as well. And, it's a similar concept to a patch bay, which I also like. Anyway, different workflows, no problem with that.
All great input and thanks for it
I anticipated more split opinion but it seems like Auria is a clear lead here.- edited May 2015
I usually don't have to look at the input matrix when recording audio unless the goal is to bounce a track or two to a new one. I think the main purpose of the matrix or one that I can think of is routing multiple audio signals to different tracks when recording multiple simultaneous instruments, a live band. When I record different analog instruments or microphones myself, I use the same channel and it always comes up on the left input which I believe is the default mono input for all tracks. I have yet to make a change to the output matrix.
I know the OP asks about 3 specific DAWs, but does anyone have experience with MultitrackStudio for iPad and how it ranks for this task compared to Auria? It has an enthusiastic following.
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@thus I was going to include an 'etc' at the end of that topic as indeed I'm interested in all takes and possible avenues.
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The Matrix just seems a clunky way of handling the routing. Logic doesn't do this, and it's much more powerful.
I always have to fiddle with The Matrix when I record anything, as even though Auria creates about ten different channels every time you hook it up to AB, you can rarely hear what you're playing until you've mucked about with The Matrix, or added the instrument (weirdly) via the FX dialog box.
I can see how it might be useful for multi-channel recording, assuming you can get everything to work at the same time, but for single channel recording I find Auria a bit of a clunk fest
I own Cubasis and MultiTrackDaw. I've been able to do pretty micro-level audio edits with both. With Cubasis, it's important to know the kinds of audio edits you can do directly on the track on the timeline are limited. But when you open up an audio clip in the editor you have a lot more options. I've found the audio editor window in Cubasis to suit most of my needs.
With MTD in contrast, all editing happens on the timeline. It has an interesting 'context menu' system. When you long press on an audio clip a half dozen menu choices pop up. The workflow is pretty efficient.
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Thanks, @ecamburn, i was curious about MultiTrack DAW too. Still wondering: Anyone use MultitrackStudio for editing (similarly-named but different than MultiTrack DAW)?
Well I gotta say having given Auria, Cubasis, and MultiTrack Daw more/less equal learning entry points Auria comes out feeling the most intuitive and capable for the kind of editing I was seeking.
I don't want to speak premature of necessary learning curves but out of the gate Auria feels the best and given Auria's plug-ins I think it's the one I'm going to dedicate to learning and getting fluid with.
Thanks to all for input.
@thus I know you weren't asking me but MultiTrack Studio is one I've Not tried but hear lots of good things about.
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@Proppa - Welcome to Planet Auria - hope you enjoy it as much as I do
Quick note - the plugins are awesome and I wouldn't trade them for anything, but you can get a LOT of mileage just using the PSP channel strips for EQ and Compression (as needed) without firing up a single plugin. In fact, if you lean on your channel strips during mixing, you'll have a lot more CPU left for the occasional Convolution Reverb or IAA plugin, etc.
@eustressor thanks man and that's Awesome re: your tip on the channel strips. (I've yet to buy Any plugins so that's great to know in the meantime).
After learning the initial basic gestures of handling waveforms in Auria I'm off to the races. I'm going to try to be ultra selective with those pricey plugs.
@Proppa said:
I'm going to try to be ultra selective with those pricey plugs.Auria is definitely the way to go!
Those plug-ins, (FF) they are very more-ish